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Mina: Maslov's hierarchy of needs: food, shelter, warmth, gardens. Oh, I guess money would help too.

Glad your burning bushes survived the winds!

Sharyn: 120 irises? I am in a serious state of iris envy! Names, colors, please....let me dream vicariously!

Crepe myrtle isn't meant for my zone, but it is so pretty I'd still like to try it. Guess I'll have to wait until I get my Victorian conservatory built so I have a place to over winter it!

Can anyone imagine having that kind of greenhouse attached to one's Victorian mansion? That must have been a gardener's lifelong dream come true.

Anyone grow elephant ears (colocasia or alocasia?) If you're in a Northern climate, how do you overwinter them? I generally lose everything I try to overwinter in the basement b/c of the high humidity.

Glad, I've seen the much smaller bulb planters that look like a trowel but have a curved, more roundish blade. I'm wondering if what you have is a "dibble"? It can be short like the bulb planters I've seen or it can be as you describe - looking something like a pogo stick.

I think that's quite a find. Some gardeners I know make their own, but one from the 1950's is a real treasure.

As to those broken things...are any of them clay pots? If you want a creative project, you can make your own stepping stones and embed broken clay in them to create your own designs. Are you familiar with hypertufa? It can be hazardous to your health though if you don't wear proper respiratory protection.

Pfontes, I just remembered that the slogan of a long time gardener I met on another forum is something to the effect that the sign of a good gardener isn't a green thumb; it's brown knees. I would add sore back and legs, stiff hands...but of course it's all for a good cause.

I think I've missed responding to some posts so please don't think your contributions have been ignored. I need to set aside some time to go back and reread what I might have missed.
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One of the items I got from Mom's house is her, what do you call it (?), bulb digger? It is circa 1950's, about four feet tall, for standing on like a shovel, with a wooden handle. The wooden handle actually has a floral band painted the length of it. I may just have to take a picture and change my avatar.

So much stuff missing and broken!
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My vacation for next week has been approved and I have a box sitting here with 120 iris bulbs for planting. Thank goodness I have a Chiropractor appointment kn Tuesday!! Monday will be iris day,lol!!!
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GA....lol....now I can't get that song out of my head! (Thanks! At least it's a great song that I haven't heard in quite a long time...ha!ha!). Yeah...crazy couple of days of weather w/the long, big soak followed by the high winds and really cold temps today. To make matters worse, my furnace wouldn't come on.....it was 58 degrees in my house w/the winds howling.....BRRRR.....luckily, the furnace guy got out to me in a couple of hours so everything is toasty now and I am once again a "happy camper"....(What are Maslov's basic human needs? Food, Shelter, Warmth?...yessss, for me).
Good news on the burning bushes....was out right before it got dark when the wind was (finally) starting to die down....they are in tact and have almost completely turned that magnificent cherry red. Kinda glad they are "late bloomers" because you are so right about most of the other leaves being almost totally gone now.....so, at least I still have some lovely late color. Thanks for thinking of me and my bushes!
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I can't grow burning bushes here in my zone, however, considering a Tonto Crept Myrtle tree for the front yard. A small tree would be ideal which this is and it runs maroon colored in the fall.
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Oh, smiling is definitely good, and very therapeutic. Many of us here also smile when thinking about le chocolat. Some of us are even chocolaholics. We smile a lot!

I like the chicken analogy, but now I'm getting a hankering for chicken and it's too late to start cooking one. Umm....chicken with dressing complemented by freshly picked home grown sage and red onions, white and sweet potatoes just freshly harvested from the rapidly growing colder earth, eggs from perhaps a neighbor who raises his or her own, salad of romaine, spinach and parsley just freshly picked before the November winds render the garden bare and ready for its winter nap. And of course pumpkin pie from the smaller pie pumpkins...or maybe pumpkin cheesecake. yummmm.

And you know you can use the feathers in wreaths? Add a few pine cones, sprigs of arborvitae or juniper, a few berries from yews, perhaps some oregano flower heads, and you have a nice fall to winter wreath.
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But GA - it makes me SMILE! What could be wrong with that? hehe

I do have those days - but as my British friend used to say: "sometimes chicken....sometimes feathers." - I try to take a deep breath and plan how I'm gonna fry it up when I get a chicken day!
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Pfontes, Not that I'm glad you have those kinds of days, but I realize I'm not the only one!

I'm going to PM some links to beautiful sites that I find so relaxing, especially when the upkeep for them is more than I could ever handle. It's kind of nice to enjoy such elaborate gardens when someone else is doing all the work.

But please, no husband's body fertilizing the tomato patch! Compost works great instead!

And honestly, I don't know how you manage to do all you do.
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Pfontes, have you been talking to my wife? She made a similar threat just the other day. I'm gettin a little spooked here..........
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GA - The thought of landscaping my yard and accenting my home's beauty with decorative grasses, year-round sweet scented flowers in every hue of the rainbow, and raising mouth watering healthy vegetables in my own side yard calls to me. It is a vision that floats in my dreams.

Alas, the good lord failed to gift me with a green thumb. I can't even keep an air plant alive.

But I do make use of a form of garden therapy! When I have one of those rough days when I come home from my stressful 9 hour work day, find that my dear father has cranked the furnace to a tropical 78 degrees in the house, discover that Dad's companion dog has left a little "oopsie" inside the toe of my best leather high heels sometime this afternoon, burn the meatloaf I planned to feed us for 2 meals because I was trying to unload the dishwasher & load the clothes washer at the same time, realize that in my haste to get my afternoon cup of coffee that I failed to actually turn the coffeemaker on 45 minutes ago, my youngest daughter texts me with a request that I crochet another baby gift for her to take to a shower (only in 4 days, Mom),,,,AND THEN my sweet & wonderful better half skips through the door and asks why dinner isn't ready.......

......I lean back, close my eyes and envision a large and lushly green 5x7 tomato patch in my back yard that my husband's body is busily fertilizing from 6 feet underneath.

It's a garden and it's therapy, right?

LOL - thank goodness every day isn't as charming as the one I've described above.
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Mina, how are your burning bushes? Did the leaves survive today's onslaught? It's beginning to look more and more like November now.
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Mina, fingers crossed your bushes still have leaves after the battering we're taking by the winds today. Almost all the trees are bare....the lyrics to California Dreamin' keep popping in my mind...

"All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray"....
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GA...you are very good to respond so quickly, BUT I don't think you were necessarily "wrong" about seeing brilliant red burning bushes earlier this fall....I did, also, even in my own neighborhood, soooo....I think mine (facing East and basically foundation planting at front of house, under some big, shady trees, etc) are just "late bloomers" so to speak.....they are the most hardy shrubs....incredible growth every Spring but w/out getting "woody" below....quite like them....I'll let you know how they survive tomorrow's wind but, as of this afternoon, they look pretty "hardy"....
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Mina, I made an error when I wrote sometime ago that the burning bushes were turning. We were at the same place yesterday and I noticed those early bird bushes were stripped of leaves, but others were turning red. Now I'm wondering what the first bushes were....must do some research to discover what other small shrubs turn color early. Maybe there are early, mid and late season burning bushes?

I've noticed that the trees were really battered by winds today; some of them are almost bare. By the time the wind and rain are through tomorrow, I don't think there will be much left.

Too bad it's dark now - you could run out and cover your bushes with something to protect at least some of the lovely color. I think the system tomorrow is really going to strip a lot of the trees and leaves of color and it will really look like November before it even arrives.
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GA....update on burning bushes....really turning now....Q is whether they survive the strong winds coming tonight and tomorrow after our tremendous rains....
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Sendme- I have read something similar some years ago...caregiving from a distance for sure, lol!!
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See that? Caregiving from a distance, we call it.
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Disclaimer: This gardening joke above is for entertainment purposes only, it is a joke, Bookluvr posted it, so I moved it over to the gardening thread (with the help of my husband, who insisted on a disclaimer.
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An elderly Italian man lived alone in New Jersey . He wanted to plant his annual tomato garden, but it was very difficult work, since the ground was hard. His only son, Vincent, who used to help him, was in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament:
Dear Vincent,
I am feeling pretty sad, because it looks like I won’t be able to plant my tomato garden this year. I’m just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. I know if you were here my troubles would be over.. I know you would be happy to dig the plot for me, like in the old days.
Love, Papa
A few days later he received a letter from his son.
Dear Pop,
Don’t dig up that garden. That’s where the bodies are buried.
Love,
Vinnie
At 4 a.m. the next morning, FBI agents and local police arrived and dug up the entire area without finding any bodies. They apologized to the old man and left. That same day the old man received another letter from his son.
Dear Pop,
Go ahead and plant the tomatoes now. That’s the best I could do under the circumstances.
Love you,
Vinnie....
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Thanks for the suggestion Garden. The management here won't allow 'weeds' especially the Oxalis with the little yellow flowers, and only in my yard. Go figure.
I will plant a specialty butterfly plant (a weed) in May. Or maybe just a hummingbird plant like the neighbors have, the one butterfly we did have liked that red flower.
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Windy, SendMe's comments on meadows made me think that a meadow border might also be appropriate for your planned garden. You could add milkweeds to bring in some butterflies.
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Cancel the little green avatar statement above. Already changed it to cookies.
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Garden, brought my little avatar over here to the gardening thread to shed the last vestiges of green before winter, noticing that both Cwillie and Windy are still using spring colors in their avatars too. Don't you think mine is just a little bit greener? Maybe I am not such an ignorant gardener after all.
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SendMe, oak leaf mulch is great - does your husband not think it's mulch? Buying mulch can be expensive; allowing Mother Nature to supply it at least helps lower the cost of overwinter mulching.

When I was younger, much younger, I used to gather leaves raked to the street by neighbors for pickup. Timing that effort once, I realized I spent an average of 18 hours every fall collecting leaves for mulch! Now I'm trying to plan for more leaf dropping trees and shrubs in my yard as it's a lot safer and at least there isn't as much auto exhaust settling on the leaf piles in the street.

Why would you consider yourself "gardening ignorant", or was that meant to apply to your husband in his approach to mulching?

I can't provide grass and flowers for your meadows, but I'm P'M'ing you some links of meadows to view. (If I post here, the ".com" portion will cause the link to be deleted.)
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Sendme- I believe El. Nino when we get rain especially after the new year.
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There is a long list of what my husband does not think of as mulch, so I guess going to lowe's will yield a bag of something called mulch. At least we had a conversation about it, as I mentioned the oak leaves ( readily accessible, free) to cover the plants in case we get to 32° farenheit for a few nights this year in winter.
The weather reports scaring people about El Nino conditions have been false in our area, but the nights have just now started to drop to 50° at night. Quite a change for us, as daytime this week will be in the 80's.
Somebody should have said about the meadows-none with green grass and flowers this time of year in SoCal. Where's my therapy? Guess there is no help for the gardening-ignorant.
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Thanks guys! More info than I expected. It just occurred to me that we have a conservation district office near us. I've bought local wildflower seeds from them before. I'll bet they have ideas about types of regional native stuff I might use.
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Cwillie, thanks for making suggestions on perennials. For awhile I was stuck thinking of varieties of ornamental grasses, which I think would look nice in Windy's yard as it seems to be quite open and rural, and wouldn't be appropriate for a more formal garden.

The Japanese Forest Grasses are especially beautiful; there are some lovely varieties of New Zealand Flax (including a stunning dark purple one), and even a new Yucca that would fare well in a long border. Pampas grasses would provide much more height as well as movement on windy days.

Daylilies are a great suggestion; there are literally hundreds of varieties blooming from early through late season, as well as doubles and some rebloomers. They require basically no maintenance except for raking the spent bloom stalks, and they don't even need to be mowed down at the end of the year.

I was also thinking of peonies, which are beautiful and graceful, but their bloom time is short in my area. In addition, they're more expensive compared to other perennials.

I loved the tricolor sage - it was just beautiful. Coneflowers are as well, and are available in a wide range of hybrids and colors. Mints have to my chagrin never been as invasive as I expected. I've wanted more of them to start making lotions. Yarrow also wasn't very invasive, but I think a lot depends on our own individual microclimates. Windy's wife could also use yarrow to make fall and winter wreaths if she's so inclined.

Over the years I've also planted bellflowers (beautiful and dainty), foxglove, hollyhocks and delphiniums (not much success), all of which could blend easily into a grassy area such as Windy has.

Asiatic and Oriental as well as trumpet lilies would produce longer lived flowers and can blend well in between plants with more foliage. Irises - just love them and had dozens at one point. There are also the smaller Dutch irises.

Windy could also add a variety of mums along the inner border for color late into the season.

I'm running out of thoughts so it behooves me now to get some gardening magazines and spend more time with them so I can offer more suggestions.

Thanks for helping Windy; I really seemed to have gotten in a rut. Maybe it's thinking about all that fussing which I freely admit that I do!
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Cwille, I like that gardening philosophy, only the strong survive, cause I don't want to fuss with plants much.
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I can tell that GA is the kind of gardener that likes to be out in the yard snipping pruning and fussing with her plants, I'm more of a get em in the ground and they had better survive on their own kind of person. I would suggest you start with daylilies, sedums, any variety of perennial sage, coreopsis (tickseed), coneflowers and brown eyed susans. Peonies are tough but tend to flop, but there are cultivars that are more upright. Yarrow is pretty and very tough, but I am cautious about recommending it as I had some go wild and take over. Catmint sounds interesting but I've never tried it... it is a mint though and most mints like to spread. And if you'd like something a little weird early in the season pasque flower is a prairie plant that's kind of cool IMO.
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