Last week we made preplanned funeral arrangements for my Mom, after discussing with family the type of funeral we wanted to have. I contacted 3 homes to get quotes and specific details. The price ranges between the three were wide for the same services.
it just seemed like the right thing to do as I wouldn't want to have to make those arrangements in the emotions of the moment. Saw how that went with my MIL and it wasn't pretty or cheap. Some advantages to prearranging the funeral are that it will fix the costs; everyone knows in advance what and how the services will proceed; if Mom passes at home, I can call the funeral home directly and they will pick her up and take her to the coroners office to have her pronounced.
Making these arrangements in advance took one more background stressor out of my life. Just wondering if others have done the same and if it made things easier in the end?
Whatever you do make sure the funeral AND burial is a NCV - No Cash Value policy so that it does not become an asset for Medicaid.
My mom did her pre-need in the 1980's after my dad died. She is now on hospice in a NH and I recently went to the FH just to see what's what. Yeah she has a great pre-need for the funeral with no cost of living adjustment (LOL) as it is a really old policy. If she had done a pre-need after 2001 then the FH could do a price adjustment. So look to see if they can increase the cost based on the federal cost of living adjustment.
Also for us, we have an issue of pallbearers. Everybody on her list #1 has died.....
Everybody on list #2 is either dead or physically unable to be a pallbearer. My mom is mid 90's and outlived everybody in her immediate family and almost all of my parents friends. Now the FH can supply them for a fee of $ 50 a person plus travel, so that is an unanticipated cost and not in the preened. Also the police escort was not included in her pre-need as her cities police department does not allow for this, and that cost (about $ 200 hr) is not in the preneed either. For us this would mean an escort from FH to church & then from church to cemetery. 3 to 4 hours of cop time. Add's up. So you really have to go over the details closely.
Ask about restrictions on floral. Some places require by state law that all floral must come from a certified florist. Other places may allow for immediate family only to bring in florals which must be brought in advance of the viewing - if you can do that, you can order floral from Costco for significantly less than those from the FH book of floral arrangements or an outside florist. But you have to get them to the FH in advance. Also if your family is the type for over the top on floral, then you may have to order a "floral car" to transport all this to the cemetery. Extra cost on that one too.
Also FH may not be the same company or site as the burial site. If that is the case, there may need to be another preneed to be done for the burial site or cemetery. My dad wanted mausoleum burial and they paid for one in the 1980's and before he died. Well the cemetery / burial site at the time my mom did her pre-need with the FH, did NOT do for pre-need for burial. So we will have to pay a vault opening & closing fee, as well as other on site cemetery costs. I don;t know the costs on all that but rumor is about $ 1,500.00. I'm dealing with going to cemetary later on this week and will update a post on that.
Death is expensive even with a pre-need done. I'm actually going to speak with my mom about doing a conversion of the preneed plans to do a viewing at the FH with the tricked out silver mauve casket she picked out and then a cremation with no church or cemetery.
Really if you can get them to do a cremation, it will run under $ 1,000.00 and you can even buy the urns at Costco. Huge butt difference from the 5 - 12 thousand dollars for a traditional FH & burial. Don't put yourself into debt or allow unresolved guilt drive you to do this if you really can't afford it.
I lost my father when I was only 23 and had to do it all since my brother were under age at the time and it was a nightmare. I am so glad my mother even picked out her own casket and we have nothing to do but a small service. What a relief it will be when the time comes.
Sunny
Mom has one and has updated it about 10 years ago. I suspect I will have to pay to take her body 100 miles away to the Cemetary where Dad is. She couldn't
Remember if that was included.
Amazingly helpful, my husband and I will be talking to the director soon reguarding our plans.
I pray she will see how important it is for her to make her plans now while she can. And my heart is with you. If is hard enough being a caregiver but when our parents will not help with decisions such as their funeral, I cannot imagine the stress this puts you under. And it sounds like your entire family is in denial of reality and it will be much more expensive and difficult ifi you don't make plans now. You would think they would not want that burden when the times comes?
My love and prayers are with you that maybe you can help your mother see what must be done while she is still able. And may God give you the peace to accept what you cannot change.
Warm wishes,
Sunny
My mum has had a few scares in recent years BUT still refuses to discuss ANYTHING ive asked her to write it down but no she dosnt want to know.
Lucky I know that she would like to buried either with her own parents or in her hometown village but I must admit my family do not want to discuss this either if my mum died tom we would have no money to bury her and ive brought this up with them on many occassions but they dont want to think about it!
Mother bought her casket from a member of our church for $1200.00 an she has her plot, vault and prepaid the stone and date to be put on it. It is next to my grandfather and a double stone. So, all we need to do not is compare prices of funeral homes for preparing the body and any service we may need. We will not use the family cars which is wasted money and many people have quit doing this.
There is a lot of positive to pre-paying and my husband and I are shopping now to do ours. I don't want our children to have all the emotional stress to go through. My oldest son and his wife have donated their bodies to the Medical Center in Charleston, SC and I am not for it but will honor their wishes. Just hope I am not around to deal with it. But another good reason each of us should make our plans early. The time of death is the worst time to have to be stressed with all those details. And with the cost getting so high, our insurance may not be enough when the time comes to bury us. I just don't want any wasted money on my funeral. We will not be there, it is just the body. The spirit is gone and we will have enough grief to deal with without funeral plans at the time of our loved ones demise.
Now, if we can get mother to get a will made out. And soon we need power of attorney since her dementia is getting so bad. She cannot remember what month or day it is. She gets nervous and upset easily an needs to be in a nursing home. She did admit that to me today but she will change her mind when it comes to taking action. She lives in an apartment with Assisted Living Facility on the premises. She has her meals, transportation and housekeeping once a week and this is good but don't think she will last their through the year. I need to check the details on the Assisted Living to see is she need that or a nursing home? I am not too familiar with the difference? She will have to have a semi-private room and she does not want this but we cannot afford a private since this is a private facility and not government subsidized. But, is so much nicer than the others. We can help her with her needs up to the semi-private but the cost of the private rooms are $3,000 and we cannot afford that. Her income is very limited and I will be the one to have to help her financially. I don't mind but just cannot afford the private room and would prefer her in this private facility if possible. Nursing homes that take social security are not as nice as the private ones and the good ones have a long waiting list. She has not assets so that will not matter but I just want her in a nice place where I know she will get good care.
This was a great subject on prepaid funerals and glad you brought it up. Sorry, if I got off subject a bit. lol
Warm wishes and God Bless,
Sunny
I picked up an information packet for myself as well. I think it definitely makes things easier for all, especially if you are able to make plans while they are still in decent physical and mental health.
We also were advised by our Atty. to sign over the Life Ins. policies to the Funeral Home so the monies are not part of her estate...