Hello all. We have run into a new situation with in-law. She has late stage Alzheimer’s, lots of other health issues. We’ve struggled to provide her care, to say the least. She’s become combative, mean, aggressive. We’re about at our wits end with this, as we’ve been “helping” her for years and this new diagnosis has about crushed our family.
Howeber, MIL has started to become resistant to care. She won’t eat what we make her (despite liking it before), we will ask her to get in the shower and she’ll sit down and start doing anything but get in the shower, we’ll ask her or try to get her to change and she’ll start complaining about that. Very resistant now and I can’t tell if it’s a phase that will pass, or just a new thing. I’m more keen on placement at a facility as it’s not my mom and we have children to raise. Until we can place her, how do we manage this? Her refusing care is starting to become a problem for her as far as cleanliness and overall health (and making our days even crazier and more insane).
You are correct that placement is the answer. Folks there are more trained and more able to simply march people through those activities of daily living, such as shower time, matter of factly. And they take guidance from caregivers much more easily than from families often enough.
Do get started on placement. This will not get better and will almost certainly get a good deal worse. I am so sorry. But you didn't cause this and likely cannot fix it. You aren't alone, little help that this knowledge may be.
coming and we’re constantly
adjusting. It’s beyond grueling and this doesn’t even touch her other co existing health issues.
Good luck to you in finding a good place for MIL.
Does she drink the Boost or Ensure shakes? Pretty much all of the clients I've ever cared for who had late-stage Alzheimer's as you put it or advanced dementia would still drink those shakes.
I am sorry to tell you but she will have to be forced into the shower or to be washed up. The time for asking her to get changed or if you can help her in the shower is long past too.
If you have to be a little mean and intimidating to get her cleaned up then that is what you have to do. Believe me, a person recovers a lot easier from a little meaness then they do from a UTI, skin breakdown, or incontinence sores which all will happen if she is not kept clean.
It's good that you have some honecare aides. She does better with the homecare aides because they aren't as familar to her as you are and she doesn't know what their reaction to her refusing and complaining will be.
When she starts up with the complaining when you're with her, tell her that's enough and no one wants to hear her complaining. Don't yell and don't get angry at her. Think of her now as an adult-sized three year-old because this is pretty much what she is now.
We do not allow children to go without eating or washing. Handle your MIL pretty much the same way.
It's going to be hard for you in the meantime before you get her placed.
When it's time for a shower or a wash-up, it's time for a shower or a wash up. This means there will be no tv, no food, no drinks, no conversation, and no attention until that gets done.
You can be more flexible on the eating as long as she's still drinking and will take a nutrition shake.
Refuses to change clothes.
Resists showering.
No to offered drinks & food.
My LO for aides:
Will change clothes.
Will negotiate shower days.
Will try drinks & different food.
I try the same approaches.
- Offer choices where I can (red shirt or blue shirt? But it must be a CLEAN shirt).
- Respectful language
- Use logic (zero success 😩)
I don't know... Once a Mother & in charge just won't be told what to do by the youngsters??
But can still 'save face' for a 'Professional'?
If able you can employ Aides to do the showering/dressing. This may extend home care a little longer. But otherwise, time for placement.
Good luck .
Expect a rough month with her wanting to go home but after she settles in it will get easier with time. Never perfect, but easier. Take your life back.
Sadly, dementia causes people to revert....you remember how hard it could be sometimes to get your child to let you change their diaper. they roll and squirm around. I used to put my leg over their chest to hold them while I got the diaper changed. Can't do that with an adult.
Teepa Snow has some great videos on YouTube.
One very interesting thing you mentioned: You are keen on the idea to place her in facility because 'she's not your mom'. Why would it be acceptable for hubby's mom, but not your own? If husband agrees with your decision to place her, remember that in the future should your mother get into similar situation. More than likely, he'll say to put your mom in facility care because that's what we did with my mom. ..just a little surprised by your comment. -- Keep in mind, I understand how hard caregiving can be. And there may come a time you have no choice except facility care. However, if in the back of your mind you plan to take care of your mom up to the bitter end, hubby may feel the same way about his mom.
My dad’s meals are now also designed around his eating abilities, I encourage him to drink more water for his muscles/bloodstream and his brain’s function that definitely helps with the dementia and his physical abilities.
His mentality is so degraded the using the tactics for the age range of a toddler is very helpful. Even if it’s a smaller resistance, the job gets done.
I also get my granddaughters(9&6yo) often and they love to help remind him of the next steps in what needs to be done. When he resists them, we make it a game and he plays along with them.
If it takes a village to raise a child then it also takes a village to care for our seniors. My parents never cared for their parents so their brains never had that memory to recalled upon.
I tried a nursing home with my dad 2x and the results were horrible for him. I do give him amazing care and he is in better health when at home than in care. We tend to forget that when our family loses ability and mentality that it’s not their fault but they don’t see it at all and they think they can still do what they’ve always been able to do. They don’t know that their mind is deteriorating and refuse to acknowledge it.
If you do seek out a facility for care, visit it and watch the caregivers/staff, ask to interview a minimum of 2 clients of your choosing during the tour, ask for their schedules of care, menus, and a copy of their legal care requirements before placement, be forthcoming with them about the future involvement you are choosing with the family member in care.
Some facilities in some states may have laws protecting the facilities care requirements of a client more than the clients protection so also do research there, make sure all the legalities (DPOA/Health POA) are clear before admitting so that both the client and family are protected with legal authority.
Hope this is helpful 😇💪🏻
And Medicaid facilities are often substandard and understaffed.
It seems like the knee-jerk response to almost any question on Agingcare is “Placement - it’s that simple!”
It’s NOT that simple.
I think that’s indicative of the disproportionate number of caregivers reaching out to this forum who are in desperate need of relief and unable to provide adequate care for LO. Those that are not struggling with caregiving may not need to reach out at all or as often.
And you are correct that very often it isn’t easy to find affordable quality care , which adds to the distress for families .
I’m sure we all wish there were more accessible, affordable, quality solutions.
Over the past few years we have struggled with food and fluids for extended periods of time. There appear to be no legitimate medical causes other than a revulsion to food. She is closely monitored by her doctor and nurses and we care for her at home. Her weight has decreased with each episode with some weight gains. The doctor has placed her on two types of anti/depressants. One she takes daily and the other is given to her when she is going through specifically bad days. We also give her over the counter B12 gummies each day of 1,000 Milligrams. Theoretically, Vitamen B12 stimulates appetite and improves health of red blood cells. Doctors do have the ability to prescribe appetite stimulates. In my mother’s case, traditional prescriptions for appetite are in conflict with several of her meds so we could not use them and continue with the anti depressants and B12.
Gradually, we have settled into doing the following : We have her eat from a tray rather than at the table as looking as the serving bowls of food and seeing food on our plates always generate a negative response. She eats from a saucer on which we place small amounts of 3 to 4 choices. Examples would be a few cashews, a few pieces of an orange, a Cheese slice cut into small pieces, crackers. Do not make a big deal out of “you have to eat”. Try to just set in front of her and leave it.
Another technique we use regarding eating is to break it down into several small offerings. Example: breakfast; 2 hours later a Boost, mid afternoon a snack, supper, and a Boost at bedtime.
To boost nutrition, powdered milk can be added to puddings, milkshakes, mashed potatoes, even meatloaf. Extra egg can be added to meatloaf. These people are eating so little we strive for as much nutrition in each bite as we can get in there.
A serious issue also developed with fluid intake. This caused dehydration which resulted in hospitalization and IV intervention. She does not like to drink and never has but age and health dictate she MUST. Her doctor suggested sparkling water and/or flavored water. This miraculously has worked. Push beverages as much as you can, and keep several options on hand. Even an ounce of liquid at a time is something.
Concerning hygiene, a savior for us has been stocking up on and using wet wipes. These are made for humans and do a decent job of getting hands and other body areas a bit of a spot clean. Baths for some seniors is traumatic. Our patient is afraid of bathtubs and showers for reasons even she cannot explain. Bathing can wear them and you out, that is a for sure. Been there! Also, check to see if you’re MIL gets cold easily. This is another area wherein we turn the heat up and keep the bathroom unusually warm. We usually do teeth brushing with a bowl and a glass of water at a table where she sets down and brushes, spitting into the bowl. I cannot explain WHY this works for us, but it does.
Patience is a big asset if you can muster it. Very challenging dealing with these things. One of the reasons we keep her at home is that we know she will not get the constant care she gets from us. You are in a tough place for which there are no easy answers. The items we have developed with the guidance of her doctor and our experimenting have definitely made a difference in our situation. Best wishes to you snd your family.