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My mom has lost 3 good friends in the last two years and is experiencing a great deal of loneliness and depression. I am an only child and she leans on me to fill the void, but we've always had a complicated relationship, and I can't be what her life-long friends were to her.

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See if she can volunteer someplace. A local VFW, or an animal shelter, or even an Assisted Living facility. Maybe she could a part time job at a local Mickey D's or a grocery store. Gets her out of the house, and she will get to meet other people.
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ElizabethAR37 Nov 2023
At 86 that may not be an option physically. It isn't for me anymore, unfortunately. I volunteered for a cat rescue/rehoming nonprofit for almost 10 years but had to resign just as COVID hit. I miss it but my back can't handle the physical duties now.
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This is where hiring a companion aid or going into AL is beneficial. Much more social interaction. My 2 elderly Aunts shared 1 incredible companion aid for 6 years and she was a joy to have for them. She played games with them, chatted, watched tv and talked politics with them, took them on errands, did light duties in the home, etc. Totally worth the efort and money -- we had to cycle through a few losers first to find her.

My MIL is in LTC in a great facility. Staff come in and out of her room all day long and she jokes and chats with them. They take her out to activities and events. This is way more than what she'd get cloistered inside our home.

Seniors don't like change and both my Aunts and MIL were very resistant at first. Then they loved it.

Your profile says one (or both?) of them have hearing loss. If they don't have hearing aids (or won't wear them) this in itself will keep them more isolated if they can't even hear what is going on around them. I insisted (demanded) that my 94-yr old Mom have her hearing tested because I was tired of yelling every conversation. I walk next door to her house every morning and make her wear them. It makes a huge difference in all social interactions.
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Show her all the many programs that the Shepherd Center and Senior Services has in your area, and give her the option to participate in them or not.
Also I'm sure her church(if she goes to one)has different things going on for their seniors as well. And make sure she's being treated for her depression and perhaps even going to a Grief Share support group.
Or have her move into an assisted living facility where she will be around other folks her age and have lots of opportunities to do different activities.
If she chooses not to do any of the above, well that is on her not you, as you cannot and should not be her entertainment committee.
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Gunnarsmom63 Nov 2023
My father is still living as well and they aren't quite ready for assisted living. She misses her 'girlfriends', especially her best friend who passed away a year ago. They talked every day and Mom really grieves for that. She doesn't always like 'new' things or new people, so that's a challenge as well. We live close, and I check in every day, which I don't mind at all. I'm really just looking for a way to help her through her grief. I'm trying to get her to talk to our pastor, but he is also 'new'...hence her hesitation. "He doesn't know me." I said maybe that's even better. LOL
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I would be honest with your Mom that you have your own life, and have not the time to be her "friend" to replace those she has lost. Quite honestly, there is nothing like honesty for giving us the relief we seek in life. You needn't go into complications in relationship. A bit late for all that. Just say you have your own life and she must make hers. There are senior centers and in my own city our library has programs from knitting get-togethers to old films and book clubs. There are faith based activities if she's a woman of faith.

I am uncertain how much discussion she had done with you. But some folks don't require "friends" and in fact don't want a lot of people, are content in our own way with our own activities day to day.

It is up to you not to feel the need to fulfill a role that simply isn't yours. Don't take it on. We aren't responsible for the loneliness of others.
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ElizabethAR37 Nov 2023
Spot on, as usual. The truth as spoken by a fellow traveler-in-aging.
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It’s not your job to fix your mother. 🌺
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Caregiverhelp11 Nov 2023
Wow, that's pretty uncaring.
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Your mother is 86 years old and still has her husband! Is not interested in new things or new people, yet wants you to fill the void in her life as so many mother's of only children expect. Expectations vs. Reality are 2 different things.

At her age, she's going to see more friends and family die than anything else. My mother saw all of her 7 siblings die off leaving her the last man standing. She lived to 95 and that's what happens with extreme old age.

My mother thrived in Senior Independent Living, along with dad, until I had to move both of them into Assisted Living when mom was 87 and dad was 90. Dad died a year later and thank God mom was living in AL.....the ladies scooped her up and brought her back into the fold. Now she was a widow, like they were, and she continued to thrive. As an only child myself, mom would've expected ME to be her entertainment committee had she lived alone in a house! 😐

With your mother being 86, she's "ready" for senior living at ANY time, where there's activities galore and lots of folks to interact with. What you don't want is to have a crisis on your hands and them being FORCED into AL after a broken hip or accident of some kind. She may just decide that new things and new people are good after all. And if not, at least it's THERE for her to utilize which lets you off the hook for being her BFF 24/7.

Good luck to you.
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She is experiencing grief too. Can you find a grief group for her to attend while you follow some of the other suggestions here?
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This is one of the many issues that all of us have to deal with as we age. We have to figure it out for ourselves.

I applaud you for caring, but it’s not your problem to solve. Gently steer mom toward her own personal growth so that she’ll develop coping skills instead of ending up being a responsibility that you can’t shake. If that happens, you’ll be very sorry that you allowed it.
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MargaretMcKen Nov 2023
Caregiverhelp, your profile says that your mother is in a NH. Are you selfish to let that happen?
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Before there is a crisis is a better time to make the change to Senior Living.

Who can handle meeting new people when they are ill, have broken something, or are otherwise incapacitated?

Better off moving now, when they can meet people when they are vertical. :-)
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You might think that at 86 your mother is past volunteering. In fact, I know places where a volunteer sits on the desk by the door, chats to people, and presses a bell to a second mobile worker (sometimes a younger volunteer) who has other jobs to do but comes when they are needed (including to work the impossibly complicated cash register).

“They aren't quite ready for assisted living”. Why not? “She doesn't always like 'new' things or new people”. So what? Parents will opt for children in attendance about 90% of the time. No need to make any effort themselves, ‘family’ providing the help means they are still independent (in their own minds), and it’s free. The only down side is that the ‘care’ creeps up and eventually ruins their children’s lives.

At a minimum, don’t go around every day, except to take them to a day care activity center. If daily visits are filling in your own needs, you need to find new things yourself. Otherwise you are quite likely to end up in a worse position than your parents, when you need help yourself, and there isn't a 'you' to fill in the gaps.
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ElizabethAR37 Nov 2023
I'm 86 and physically pretty much "past volunteering" at this point. If OP's mom uses a computer, there's lots of news and activities available for reading and doing. I read a lot. I'm still able to walk although not daily and not as far as I once did, but I do what I can.

Since I'm a lifelong introvert, I may not be experiencing loneliness in the same way OP's mom is. It's important to recognize that our adult kids work and have busy lives of their own. I did, too, in my 60s-70s.
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You mentioned in a response that she is dealing with grief. Suggest that she attend GriefShare meetings. griefshare.org

You could offer to go to the first meeting with her if you want to help her feel comfortable.

As far as missing people, we will all miss people who are no longer in our lives.

In our community there are senior centers that have many activities. There are senior groups at churches. Lots of opportunities for seniors to volunteer. Some of the best volunteers at our WW11 museum are the older veterans.

You can’t be with your mom all the time. I’m sure she appreciates that you call to check in on a regular basis.

Wishing you and your family all the best.
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Honestly you mother is the only one who can fix this. You will never be able to do enough for her....ask any of us here as we have tried and failed. This is her thing to work out, not your burden to take on. Be honest with her and tell her you can't fix this, She needs to come to terms with it.
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Gunnarsmom63 Nov 2023
This is the conclusion I have come to, as well. This is her problem to fix. I told her that I understand, and I do. I lost my then-best friend to a car accident when we were both in our 30's and newly married...in addition to losing her, we lost the couple we did everything with. While I have made many new friends in the years since, we've never 'clicked' with another couple the way we did with them. Sometimes you just mourn and move on. I also told her that I realize I was in a better position to make new friends than she is, but it isn't impossible. She knows that, too. They live in condos both here and in their winter home in Florida, so there are plenty of people to talk to. If she chooses not to take advantage of that, it's on her.

I think Dad and I have convinced her to talk to our pastor. We'll see.
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At 86 , unfortunately her elderly friends will be dying. In addition to grief counseling , perhaps talk to the doctor and get a screening for depression .

You can not be her entertainment . Many of us have made that mistake and ended up being their servants and propping up a false independence .

Can you talk to Dad about going to independent living facility , where they could both make friends ? Or if they could use alittle more help , assisted living ?
Maybe he could get Mom to go .
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Are you familiar with Mike Rowe, the Dirty Jobs guy? His parents live in a CCRC in Baltimore, MD. (I know which one it is, but they choose not to disclose the name.) I follow Peggy Rowe's writings on Facebook. She is an author with three books to her name, humorous outlooks on life.

If you could start reading some of her posts* to your parents, I think they would be sold on moving. Peggy often writes about "the home" and what daily life there is like. They are never bored, that is for sure. My dad's friend moved to the same one. His first call to dad after moving was, "You have to come visit me. We have seven first class restaurants here!"

Now, I know this one is pricey, and as they say, you get what you pay for, but I think the same level of social interaction can be found in less expensive places as well.

*Mike Rowe also posts videos of his chats with his mom. Just be warned that if your parents don't like anything with a hint of being off-color, they might be bothered by the videos. You can kind of censor her FB posts as you read them if you need to, but you can't do that with the videos. The title of her most recent book is, "Vacuuming in the Nude (and other ways to get attention)" -- that gives you an idea of her humor style.
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NeedHelpWithMom Nov 2023
I love Mike Rowe’s sense of humor! He is a funny guy.
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A small dog or find a senior center with activities . Also a cruise , people Make friends on cruises .
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sp196902 Nov 2023
Please no pets. Or if they want a pet get an older senior pet not a young dog or puppy.

I suggest they volunteer somewhere so they are doing something useful to help leave the world a better place.

Or they could do what my parents and those in their senior commumity do and spend their weekends gambling and making the casinos rich.
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I am76, many of my friends have left to a better place as well, others are still here but do not know it, dementia has gotten them.

It is my issue to solve, not anyone else's. I keep real busy, volunteering and make new friends doing this, we are not alone as many of them have lost their friends and family as well.

Sounds like she has opportunities that she is not taking, condo's in Florida always have something to do...if you want to participate.
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AARP used to have volunteers who would call elders regularly and have conversations. You might check into it.

My mother’s friends all died before she did. My dad employed a series of paid companions to take mom to lunch, doctor, shopping, movies. It was pricey but dad didn’t want to be caught up in mom’s unending cycle of doctors and other old age miseries so he considered it money well spent.
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My MIL has also lost every single friend she's ever had. (Not a lot, by the way, a few neighbors, but no 'clear back from HS' friends.)

She is an unfriendly person and is not interested in NEW friends, or in any friends or acquaintances at all. Hates all her neighbors.

She expects, and receives 100% of her need for attention from her kids, who are all Sr citizens themselves. One of them has to visit her every single day.

This is an incredibly huge burden on the 'kids'. I am just an inlaw with no voice, so I just sit back and watch the trainwreck.

She has refused every single offer of Sr Centers, ALF's, setting up short visits with the few family she has left. Basically, you can't force her to do or go anywhere.

My mom had her issues she dealt with--but she had a ton of friends. She reached out of her comfort zone and MADE friends. She outlived all but one close friend. She never once complained that she was lonely and she sure didn't expect us kids to fill in the blanks.
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Gunnarsmom63 Nov 13, 2023
Yeah, that sounds a lot like my mom. She finds something wrong with every idea any of us has to help. She isn't UNfriendly, but she finds fault. Sometimes I honestly think she likes being miserable. I told my father that if he dies before her, I'll kill him.
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Your mom may need to tell stories about her friends. Where could she do this? A senior center? The pastor is a good idea of yours. I'm glad you are there for her, but recognize you can't be everything. At 75 I can already see that one of my sons will be checking on me often to be aware of anything going badly in my life. So far just helping to catch me up from the 10 years I neglected some of my own house and yard care while I was caring for my mom's. Just being involved with family will help with any loneliness I encounter, but I expect both sons to step back and let me deal with my issues. That is unless I fall into dementia like my mom. Then they will find me the help I need. Because of our experience already with Mom they have a good sense of what to do and when to do it. Already many of my good friends are gone and my husband's friends are either gone or very ill.
What I wonder about in the upcoming situation is why I would have to feel alone when there are many people around. Younger friends are not a horrible idea. I guess I see it this way because ALL of my students were younger. I enjoy staying in touch with them, as our interests match really well and I understand what they are up to. There are a few who seem to want to be friends with me, so that is accepted.
Another good idea: Where my grandmother was in nursing home there was a childcare facility next door and the caregivers would take the elders over to be with the children for a little while every day, giving a sense of how life renews and goes on. Comforting and really fun.
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This charity does free phone visits https://elderhelpers.org/

I notice they say they’re guidestar endorsed, and guide star is pretty strict about whom they endorse, though you should verify that independently.
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“How do I deal…”

This phrase is so, so often the beginning of posts here. And almost every time, my first thought is, “well, WHY?” Truly, why “deal” with something that is not really fixable? It is NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

I fully expect to have issues like this as I grow old myself, and the very last thing I want to do is expect my children to solve them for me.

When my friends start dying off, well, sad and all, but I’ll be damned if I start getting clingy to my grown children, who have their own lives!

But…maybe I will get lucky, and conk out before I become a burdensome bore!
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Gunnarsmom63 Nov 20, 2023
My mother is NOT a burden or a bore. She is a human being whom I care about very much. I'm trying to find a way to help her. Your comment was NOT helpful.
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Unfortunately many of us care very much about parents who ARE ‘a burden or a bore’, to be brutally honest. We are so often juggling too many emotions, and that’s a big part of our problem. The ‘hard words’ may seem unhelpful, but they really do help many posters who feel guilty about accepting that it is a hard load to carry.
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