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She won’t wake up. She was in rehab for her walking, tested positive Covid. She was up talking and texting then the next day she throwing up and became non responsive. She been like this for almost two weeks. Have anyone gone through this?
You didn't give enough information, but from what I read, it sounds that your mother is close to the end of her life. She might have had a cerebro- vascular- accident. Being non-responsive could also be called being in a comatose state.
Is the age 62 correct for your Mom? Why was she in Rehab? What health problems does she have.
COVID is different for everyone in how it effects them. Did she have her shots? Pnemonia is serious especially if she has any lung problems like Asthma or COPD. The doctors should be answering any questions you have. The main one should be does she need Hospice. They are not always quick to recommend it. If they mention "comfort care", this means they don't expect Mom to recover. So sorry.
Can you tell us if your Mom is currently requiring vent, OP? I think that you will find that, no matter what age a person is, the outcome with Covid-19 depends on many things. These include age, general condition, underlying conditions such as obesity, COPD, heart disease, clotting disorders. Then there is the matter of whether the Covid-pneumonia has moved into the lungs on both sides, and how bad it is. People who were vaccinated apparently are requiring fewer and less long hospitalizations overall statistically if the variant is Omicron. Another difficulty is the hospital itself, its location, whether it is overrun with cases and down by staff numbers, what shortages of medications for treatments there might be. You will need to keep in as best touch you can and hopefully you are POA for healthcare and can speak to the nurse in charge of her case, with a social worker or case manager, but that alone is difficult right now. Two weeks in not unusual for Covid-19, nor is one month, BUT the longer one is down and out the more difficult, the more complications. I sure do wish you good luck moving forward. You are not alone. I know that doesn't make this easier.
Last month she came down for Christmas and her back started giving her problems. She was sent to hospital, we found out she had an infection on her spine. Stay in the hospital for three weeks and was sent to rehab to help her walk again because her legs and feet were numb. Two weeks ago she was up talking and texting, that Monday and Tuesday she was throwing up, Wednesday she became non responsive and was sent to the ER. They couldn’t get her potassium levels up and We learned she was having seizures, she sedated and was put on a vent. She haven’t been putting out much urine so they decided to do dialysis to remove the toxins, hopefully to bring her back to base line conditions but that didn’t work, all of her organs are functioning, she just won’t open her eyes and the doctor says if we take her off the vent she’ll die. We don’t know what to do at this point.
Dallasgal, sounds as though Mom was already severely ill, fighting a serious infection. She likely has little left to fight covid. She is currently being kept alive with heroic measures. The MD will let you know when he feels that the best would be to allow Mom a peaceful passing medicated. You can wait until you understand and can accept that this is likely end of life for her. Keep close to what you MD is recommending. He or she knows the case best and will have the best advice. I am so sorry.
Yes, my best friend's dad is going through this right now. He already had a DNR and now he's on the hospice side of the nursing home in Florida. He had been declining for a month or so and the doctor was very slow to get palliative on board and make him comfort care.
Many doctors avoid having these conversations so perhaps it's time for you to request palliative care and ask about hospice. I agree that your mother is end of life and it's time to focus on keeping her comfortable.
Covid sucks, lost both my parents to it. I agree it is time to request palliative care and inquire about hospice. I think prolonging the situation is unrealistic and unfair.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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COVID is different for everyone in how it effects them. Did she have her shots? Pnemonia is serious especially if she has any lung problems like Asthma or COPD. The doctors should be answering any questions you have. The main one should be does she need Hospice. They are not always quick to recommend it. If they mention "comfort care", this means they don't expect Mom to recover. So sorry.
I think that you will find that, no matter what age a person is, the outcome with Covid-19 depends on many things. These include age, general condition, underlying conditions such as obesity, COPD, heart disease, clotting disorders. Then there is the matter of whether the Covid-pneumonia has moved into the lungs on both sides, and how bad it is. People who were vaccinated apparently are requiring fewer and less long hospitalizations overall statistically if the variant is Omicron. Another difficulty is the hospital itself, its location, whether it is overrun with cases and down by staff numbers, what shortages of medications for treatments there might be.
You will need to keep in as best touch you can and hopefully you are POA for healthcare and can speak to the nurse in charge of her case, with a social worker or case manager, but that alone is difficult right now. Two weeks in not unusual for Covid-19, nor is one month, BUT the longer one is down and out the more difficult, the more complications.
I sure do wish you good luck moving forward. You are not alone. I know that doesn't make this easier.
Many doctors avoid having these conversations so perhaps it's time for you to request palliative care and ask about hospice. I agree that your mother is end of life and it's time to focus on keeping her comfortable.