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They were codependent and enmeshed; I don’t know how to calm my sister down. She’s 51, is a hoarder, and can’t live without my mom to tell her what to do. She calls me constantly and cries she has no money. I’ve told her I will help her budget and make sure her bills get paid but she still cries and complains and asks for handouts. I can’t even grieve because she is draining my energy. Has anyone been through a situation like this? Have any advice? Thank you all for your words while my mom was in the hospital and rehab. It turned out to be a blood clot and it all happened so quick.

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I am sorry your mom died. Unfortunately now your sister is going to try and get you to emesh herself into your life.

You need to set boundaries with her and please don't give her money. She will bleed you dry.

Sister needs to start standing on her own two feet. She is only 51 years old.
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Theres no way to sugarcoat this, so I’d just tell her kindly but bluntly.

She needs to grow up. Or, more kindly, she needs to start the process that should have began on her 18th birthday, more than 33 years ago.

If she doesn’t have money, she’s gonna have to woman up and get a job.
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Beatty Apr 2023
Or face her underlying difficulties & seek help/support for them.
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I am so sorry for your loss.

Would it be possible to reach out to the hospital where Mom was to ask for their Social Worker to contact you & your sister?

I'm thinking a social service could be engaged to point your sister towards some short term immediate crises support - as it does seem she is in crises. She may also need longer term counselling & support as it may well be beyond her to pack up the house, consider her new life & move/downsize. She may need to acknowledge she has struggles & be accepting of involving some non-family help. Relying on just you is not the solution. While it is nice she trusts you, it's.not your responsibility to save her.

Like how the weight & panic of a drowning person can drown even the strongest swimmer. She needs lifeguards.

Maybe get through the week. Then have a think & start formulating plans with her. It may sound cruel, but propping her up, paying her bills, taking over, become her saviour won't help her in the long run.

If at 51 if she has never been independant, there will be reasons. The long view would be to help her find the right coucelling/support for herself. So she can start to build her new life after this crises stage.
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I am so sorry for your loss.

What diagnosed psychiatric and/or cognitive issues does your sister have?

Did your mom leave provisions for her, like a Special Needs Trust?

Is her housing secure, or will she need to vacate? What is her food situation like? Can she cook for herself?

Does your sister have any guaranteed income, like SSDI?

Does she have a Case Worker you can call?
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Do not answer every single one of her calls. Just because she's calling you does not mean that you have to answer your phone.

Your sister is mentally ill. You cannot help her with that enormity. She needs professional help. She will only drag you down with her. People who are mentally ill tend to latch onto others seeking a codependent relationship. Your sister may see you as the easiest and quickest replacement for your mother. Do not get sucked in.

There may be programs available in the community for people like your sister who need to learn basic life skills and get help with finding a job. Find those programs and take her there to get more information. Do not take your sister on as a DIY project. You need to live your own life.
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Beatty Apr 2023
I have seen this.
My mentally ill sister was being encouraged to become less dependant on our parents. She immediately transferred her dependence onto me, until I learned to set boundaries.

She even summed it up herself.. describing assistance for many household tasks & ADLs: "I don't care WHO does it, but I need someone to. It doesn't have to be you."

So with some insight & communication (especially getting practice at having difficult conversations) alternative supports & solutions have been found.

Obtaining a good Case Manager was/is key.
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There is a reason why your sister is 51 unmarried and living with Mom. I assume your sister has always had some challenges. Whether mental illness or challenges from birth or an accident. Your Mom did her no favors allowing her to depend on her and leaving you with the problem. There are resources out there but you must find them. It sort of snowballs, you find one resource and they tell you about another.

Does your sister get Social Security disability, Medicare or Medicaid. Does she hold down a job. If not, without Moms SS or any pension she probably doesn't have money.

My first stop would be your County Social Services if she is not on SSD, SSI (supplimental income) or working. She can apply for SSI and then SSD if there is a disability. There's food stamps and food closets. If she doesn't have Medicaid for health, apply for that. Help with electricity and heating.

I am not "its time to pull up her big girl panties" because I think there is a lot going on here. At 51 its not going to be easy to get a job if she hasn't had one. Does she even drive. If she is disabled, she can use Senior bussing. That will take her to appts and shopping. If Mom handled the money its going to be hard to teach sis how to budget.

Sorry to say, but you have a big job ahead of you. It will get easier as things fall into place but your Sister is not miraculously going to become an independent person. Its going to take time. You need to set boundries now right from the beginning. The more she can do for herself the better. I have been there. I have a physically disabled nephew with neurological problems. He moved in with my Mom at 18, the beginning of her Dementia we were not aware of. So it fell on me to get him the help he needed. He is doing well. The State pays for 70% of his rent. He has a State Coordinator and an aide that comes 1x a week for 5 hrs. We schedule his doctor visits, banking and shopping around that aides day. He was working before COVID at a workshop called the ARC for people who have challenges but for now he has to wait till they have work he can do.
He lives on his own and I am here if he needs me. He has grown in the last 4 yrs he had been on his own. I have Immediate POA but only use it to oversee his banking. I am payee of his annuity but not his SS. He has done well budgeting for himself. I am really proud of him. He is 33 and was not suppose to mature passed 14 yr old. He may not maturity wise be 33 but he is passed the 14 yr old mark.
Feel free to PM me if you have questions.
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I want to add that Goodwill can be a good resource in a situation like this.

They have a program that accepts folks even with "vague" disabilities--documented with a letter from a doctor.

They will assess her ability to work, provide some training and place her appropriately. Some folks in this program work in Goodwill retail locations, but many more are placed through Temp Agencies in companies that are committed to hiring people with handicaps.

In my last clinical job, we had several clerks who had been placed through this program.
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I'm sorry that you lost your mom to a fall. I can't help but wonder if she by chance tripped over things in the hoarded mess your sister created.
Your sister now needs some help(mentally)to address her co-dependence and hoarding issue. You won't be able to help her with those issues, so hopefully she has access to good mental help in her city.
Please don't get sucked into giving her money as she is young enough that she should be able to support herself. We all have to grow up sometimes and I guess growing up at 51 is better than never growing up at all huh?
I'm sorry that your sisters issues are now preventing you from grieving for your mom. That's so unfair. I hope that you can untangle yourself from this mess and get on with living and enjoying your own life. If your sister wants to remain miserable, well...that's on her.
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Im sure it's a difficult situation everyone. Sorry you lost your mom
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I think it may be time to start by reaching out to a LSW in private practice or through your sister's MD (esp so if you are her POA) to figure out how to approach this. Hoarding often goes along with other personality or mental disorders. Any loss such as sister just had is devastating in this kind of illness. Sister (and YOU) are going to need all the support you can possibly get. I am so very sorry for your loss, and for all both of you are going through. This truly is a crisis situation for your Sis.
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