My mother reduced her sitter to tears today telling her to tell me (her daughter) that I could lick the sitter's @ss. She's also still praying out loud for something bad to happen to me and my husband. Paid the sitter for the week and told her that she could go on home for the day and we'd play it by ear the rest of the week. My previous post explains how she is refusing her medicine for her dementia. Going on 4 days straight. Finally took her thyroid medicine this morning with lots of coaxing but no BP or dementia meds. She's out of control, hitting one of the aides with the remote to her lift chair. Don't think she really physically hurt her though. Hospice is in and out mostly dealing with her behaviors now since she recovered from the UTI she had last week. Need advice, validation I guess, that I'm doing the right thing to leave my mother without a sitter in the NH. She's had one for the 2 years she's been there. The nurse at the NH has assured us they'll keep close check on her and I'm only 5 mins away so I can pop in most anytime. Can't visit my mother though. She verbally attacks me as soon as I walk in the door. This is a nightmare for me, the only child. My mother has always had a strong, stubborn sometimes controlling personality and I tell everyone this is her personality on steroids. I just don't know what else to do. Seeing a therapist as needed but she's an hour away and can't go anytime I want. Thank you in advance for any thoughts, encouragement, even stern words of advice.
You can then monitor her for your piece of mind without setting her off - if she says that you remind her of her daughter just say 'that's a nice thing to say' but change your voice somewhat possibly do a hoarse whisper
It is hard when the dementia person turns on their helper - my mom started to accuse me too so I started a campaign to change her mind by always arriving with a treat - you can be 'thief' & 'bringer of treats' at the same time -
I brought 1/2 decaf coffee & 1/2 hot chocolate from Tim Horton's & bought it about 15 minutes before I saw her so she couldn't burn herself if she spilled it on herself - slowly she started to smile a bit then a lot when she saw me - I didn't always bring the same thing however -
A dog ball from dollar store to exercise her hands, some silk flowers in a metal vase so I could add to it when I was stuck what to bring - a few times I would bring in paint samples etc for her advise in helping me in to choose a decorating item [just verbalizing it to her clarified it in my mind too] - not over night but a few weeks did it
Since she is refusing meds, this will make it harder to treat anything she does have, including adding anything to calm her down. I wouldn't worry about the so-called dementia meds (is there really anything?), but for the BP and thyroid meds, have them check her BP and thyroid levels - perhaps some can be cut down if not eliminated. Our mother takes 3 different BP meds - I would not want to see what would happen should she decide not to take them. Maybe they can tell her that taking this or that medication will harm you in some way - perhaps that would entice her to take them? Sad to think about, but if it works, why not? People always say you have to live in their reality...
If at all possible, have them do a urine culture - sometimes it is still lurking in there, even though it seems to be "cured." When I first joined this forum, I scoffed at the UTI comments, until it happened to mom. She's generally quiet, sits and reads the paper, magazines, sales catalogs, but with that first UTI, off the rails! She had to take Lorazepam (anti-anxiety med) every afternoon before the ranting/raving started. Once her UTI was gone, she went back to the quiet reader and didn't need the anti-anxiety meds - we keep them on hand, as needed only.
More recently was nighttime bed-wetting. Once she got through the UTI meds, it stopped. It is bizarre what UTIs can do to those with dementia! They suspect she may have another now... If they do confirm, I might suggest they culture it too - this is done not only to catch the sneaky bacteria, but to narrow it down to use specific drugs and perhaps extend the treatment period.
As for visits - if all she will do is rant/attack you, I would suspend all visits. If you really feel the need to be there, be a fly on the wall, just to check on her and observe. IF they find a way to treat her and she calms down, you can always try slowly to resume visits. You can only do what you can do and if it is better for both of you to stay away, then do that, with no guilt or regrets. You have done the best you can.
If there is no underlying infection such as UTI, pressure sores, teeth issues, or pain such as constipation, might I suggest it could be delerium or even psychosis. Just because the current UTI has been dealt with, it does not mean that any delerium associated with the infection automatically passes at the same time. Delerium can take days, weeks or months to dissipate, and it is apparently difficult for medicos to decide if behaviour is due to dementia or delerium. It is only after total recovery - if it is ''only'' delerium - that they are more certain.
My mother was placed on respiridone, an anti-psychotic drug. Not sure what the US equivalent would be (I am in Australia). That eventually worked very well, every time she was taken off it her behaviour descended into hell again. She has finally been weaned off it after about 6 months and mother is, touch wood, back to ''normal'' dementia behaviour.*
She also has a permanent patch for pain, the dosage has been upped.
My only other suggestion when you visit your mother is use a time-out. When she becomes difficult tell her she is being ridiculous and leave the room for a few minutes. If you have something to distract her when you return you might get a better reception, there again, you might not. With my mother it is either a bottle of strawberry milk or a full on milkshake. The staff even use that distraction. So far she has not thrown it at anyone, indeed, one cannot get the container away from her until she has sucked it dry.
* I would caution that respiridone in particular is contra-indicated for Lewy Body. Not sure of any other anti-psychotic drugs are suited either. In Australia we currently have underway a Royal Commission into the aged care system, and this drug is going to be restricted to 12 weeks with very strict guidelines if it is prescribed for longer periods. It is classed as a 'chemical restraint' and restraint is a big no-no with treating dementia in nursing homes and aged care facilities, although hospitals do it routinely here.
Sending prayers that God does intervene here SOON and end this suffering for all concerned. Sending you a hug
My dad died 17 yrs. ago... I'm not getting it to it, this is your post and I don't feel like rehashing my challenges here now ... just to say, I can relate. Mom's health went down badly & in march I brought her here where I live (In Canada) Got her house sold, she is in a nice independent living seniors community where 3 meals are provided in dining rm, all living expenses that relate to her suite are taken care of ... only 1 bill - she was happy about that. I have managed to bring together ALL of her bank accounts from previous & from sale of house along with other small investments and our Financial planner, who we have a swell - has come up with a wonderful financial plan that will use the principle proceeds from her home and generates interest that helps pay for her $3200 p/mo. rent (will go up if more care is needed, right now she has no care - she even broker her hip in July and has come back pretty well - she's a survivor!)
Thing is she is forgetting and becoming more and more discontent as she is gaining weight and becoming stronger .. we had a new will drawn up & she is going off BIARRE since (that was last wk) her ugly, evil martyr self is coming out. Haven't seen it since last year when she was in her home and miserable - lashing out at me.
Rambling but I am getting the WRATH of Donna now, I do all the banking, everything .. I have a few concerning things going on but I also have a great counsellor I've been working with and she is helping me assert my healthy boundaries & standing up for myself KNOWING I am doing everything from the highest integrity & intention .. hold on - it's a bumpy ride & we don't know how long it will be .. MAN, this is the TOUGHEST assignment I have ever taken on & I've been through a lot of shit with her over course of my life..
Good luck,
No stern words for you ... just hold your boundaries & stand up for yourself .. any sign of weakness - gives room for them to see, smell & pounce !!
This last week I observed them meandering towards the bedroom (and all the dreaded chores) holding hands and singing a song from aunts childhood. So sweet. The other one will write in the log “Very stubborn today” and call it a job done.
It sounds to me like you need a break and maybe the sitter did as well. If she throws things, remove what is likely to cause harm. I suspect she’s eating something. Make sure nothing is offered that doesn’t have the agreed upon meds stirred in but the NH will figure that all out. If she’s not eating she will get weaker and easier to deal with at some point and then perhaps a reset of sorts can be achieved. Not ideal but perhaps all that can be done.
Go out for a walk and remember to breath before you visit. Work off some of your anxiety first and you will have a better visit. Perhaps you can see her without her seeing you. That might reassure you without upsetting her. I know it’s hard. It truly goes back to basics. Take care of you and remember the serenity prayer. And one last thing. Try not to talk about it to everyone in your orbit. Give your brain a rest. Allow more peaceful thoughts. If you have to, clean the oven or polish the furniture. Use the energy in a constructive way.
Hugs.
As far having a sitter for your mom. I would not! I don't see why you would want to incur the cost of a private sitter especially since your mom is not benefiting from the visits.
You need to put your needs first. That is not in anyway selfish of you. You may at some point be needed/wanted by your mom. If you are burned out by trying to be there for her at this point when she is not responding to your visits, then when she wants you, you may not be able to see her. I have had many of my caregivers die before their loved one because they did not put themselves first and take care of their needs, If you have a family their need as well as your own must come first!
Please keep us updated on your journey, know that you are not alone.
The “sitter” is a joke, at three SNF they’re called slang bc they do nothing but sit on their phones all day. You did her/him a favor. If your mom is in a NH leave her alone. They will adjust any meds needed trust me.
First you can’t force her to take medications. What’s the worse that can happen if she doesn’t? They say dementia medications are that effective anyway. Sounds to me like she needs something for her outbursts. When dad was on hospice they put him on a medication for that but can’t recall the name.
Your mom doesn’t need a sitter for pity's sake. That’s why she’s in a nursing home. Your mom has a broken brain and has lost her inhibitions. I can’t blame you for not visiting. It doesn’t do her or you any good. So don’t feel badly for staying away. Just keep in touch through hospice. And ask the nurse to visit with the doctor about a medication to help her outbursts.
Your story, has triggering my need to vent (apologies!), but also to say that your mother is in the best place possible and you need to take care of you. Your mother's mental health is out of your hands -- leave it to the NH -- visit when you have the energy, but leave the building if you need to. Don't get caught up in your mother's mental health decline. Know you are there when they need you to be, and in the interim take good care of YOU!!! You are doing the best you can for your mother...
Blessings for the coming Season!!
Many people are averse to medicating their LO and even doctors are sometimes hesitant because of side effects.
But when it reaches this stage, medication is not only necessary to allow the patient reasonable personal interaction with others, but also we have to think of the mental turmoil they're suffering everyday because of their own confusion and aggravation...
Sitters do not change patients..all they do is sit and watch. Nursing home staff is often busy with a whole hall full of patients and they all need changing and fed or medicated.
But lol on all the “it’s not her it’s the illness “ claims , of course the disease has some play on the matter but it IS her( in my mother’s case) . It seems from so many posts on here, we have dealt with personality disorders our parents had displayed but since they were less helpless, some could set boundaries that allowed us to cope with their behavior. Or some just never “got” their parents were actually not nice people, they were cruel or sociopaths or narcissistic. Now we are stuck since they are ill BUT they still are responsible for their behavior and we don’t need to accept abuse.
Excellent You Tube videos , “ surviving narcissism” by Dr Les Carter. It’s never to late to start dealing with reality lol
Maybe they can hide her meds in some pudding or jelly or ice cream.
It's incredibly hard to see someone you love with Alzheimer's.
God bless you!!
Our Hospice or the stand in nurse for ma's last night was disturbing... Other hospice places had IV Morphine on hand... NO,,,,, not my mom..... The nurse on duty SHOWED ME HOW TO crush the morphine pill and swipe it all around the inside of my mom's mouth... "every hour".. She did not tell me about the ATIVAN in the same ER pack that hospice left in the refrigerator for this scenario....) I am supposing,for this scenario) Deep breath... it was not fun.. it was not peaceful, until my "angel" came down, and found the ativan, cleaned mom up, posistioned her correctly so body fluid would drain efficiently out of her body, and the ativan kicked in and she relaxed. Then it was peaceful....
WHEN YOU SIGN THAT DNR FORM :;; COMFORT MEASURES ONLY... Can that mean, you get the morphine&ativan IV drip? It just looked more peaceful.. Yes I have seen both personally....I was closest to mom... and it was rough going.... Then again, is anybody leaving this Earth Easy Going? I don't know.....Most of us, left here on Earth will say NO//// Because we are too close and we will remember..........