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I added a TL;DR at the end since this will be long haha.



When I was 18, my father passed away leaving behind my mother and I, along with his two parents that, at the time, had recently moved near us. Traditionally, it's been only my mother, father, and I living together. The rest of our family is across the US or in Europe. For more context, I've never met a cousin of mine and only know of 3 first cousins in Europe. I'm currently 24 and am making an effort to not push this to the back of my mind. My mom is currently 55.



That aside, I'm in a situation where my mom watches my back and I watch hers. While I'm not around every time she gets sick, I'm more than willing to provide financial support so she can get the health support she needs (i.e. running to the ER in the case of persisting chest pains and sweats). We don't have the best relationship, mainly because she struggles with anxiety and being exposed to it puts me on edge. It's hard to be around her for a while. To be clear, it's not "PTSD" or random type panic moments, but there are panic moments when she is overwhelmed. I don't know how I'm going to take care of her as she grows older.



She doesn't seem to be taking care of herself and is struggling with her retirement. It was about 4 years ago when she first realized that she needed to save for retirement. To date, she has just under 40k in her 401k and could get 400k by selling the home she's living in now. I'm not necessarily seeking financial advice, but just wanted to bring more context. I've also encouraged her to go to therapy to help with her mental health, but I feel like I can only push so hard, so I don't try my luck. She has adopted 3 dogs and has 4 cats from before my dad passed away. The dogs seem to add on the stress, with one in particular likely causing her issues. It's a situation where, since she already adopted them, giving one or more of the dogs up would be akin to sending them to their death. While I agree with her for the most part, I feel as though her mental health is neglected by keeping them (really one in particular).



As a brief addition, she seems to consistently add more to her plate and overwhelm herself. In a sense, always keeping herself busy, but by stuffing her schedule. My fear is that by loading so much on the table, a leg breaks and causes everything else to fall apart.



She is currently a caregiver to her mother-in-law, or my grandmother. A couple of years ago, my grandfather passed away, leading to my grandmother's health declining and for dementia symptoms to form. My mom takes care of my grandmother and chastises my uncle who seems to want to remain distant from my grandmother. He has provided financial support, but doesn't seem to care about how the assisted care facility is treating her. My mom doesn't beleive he calls and regularly tells me that she fears me treating her like my uncle treats my grandmother. In a way, this constant anxiety she's feeling about it pushes me away more than it makes me want to reassure her. I can imagine her in the future crying because I haven't seen her in X amount of time, and that scares me. I don't really talk to my uncle, but my understanding is that the relationship with his mother was turbulent and something he still copes with today, but I have little idea.



Given the circumstances, how can I live my own life, encourage her to manage her mental health, and take care of her without feeling crushed? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you for reading (:



TL;DR - My father passed 6 years ago, leaving my mom (now age 55) and I (now age 24). The rest of my family is scattered and I'm the only one with immediate access to her. She struggles to handle her personal life, dealing with financial and anxiety issues. I'm worried she'll add too much to her plate and then fall apart, leaving me to pick up the pieces. She is a caregiver for her mother-in-law (my grandmother) and feels an obligation to help her (otherwise my uncle wouldn't).

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YOU can not control what your mother does.
YOU can control your actions and reactions.
YOU can not force her or make her make better choices.
YOU can make better choices for yourself.
You need to start thinking about yourself, your future, your eventual retirement.
Your mother is far to young for you to take all the responsibility. (continue like this you will be caring for her for another 30, 40 years...what happens to you?)
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
You're definitely right, thank you for responding.

While I can't control her actions and responses, it's hard to think of someone that's sacraficed a ton for me and turn my back on them for making poor decisions. I also understand repayment can never truly be accomplished, but I envision being pretty disturbed by her condition in the future. Then, thinking that she's in that position because I chose to deny assistance... I don't want it to be a sore spot, but it feels like it always will be.
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You are way too young to be worried about your mothers problems, those are hers to solve.

Unfortunately you are living your life vicariously through her and playing the "What If Card" a total waste of time.

Your mother is only 55, she has plenty of time to learn how to manage her life both emotionally & financially.

Worry about you getting your life on track, a good job, a nice place to live building for your future, not hers.
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
They're hers to solve, but ultimately mine to deal with. If she's forced to retire, unable to retire, or in need of assisted living, I will need to respond in some way. Turning my back at that moment, or assisting her in a way that's less than she expects, would be brutal. I'm hoping there's some way to help her understand what the future has in stock now before I get to that point. Now seems like the kind of time to be handling this sort of situation, before it happens. That way expectations/perspectives can be adjusted.
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I don't usually buy into the idea of therapy but I think you should consider it because you are overly concerned about all of this. It may have something to do with losing your father at a young age or perhaps having an anxious mother who tends to catastrophize has fed into it, but because you are so worried about the future at 24 it may be something worth exploring.
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
I have a therapist now and talk with them about this situation. It seems like I have few choices to make. I can pave my own way and leave my mom to take care of herself, reaching out to her or helping on my own terms, or I can adjust to her expectations and try finding a balance. The first option seems ideal, but it feels like stabbing my mom and hoping the would heals on its own. A part of me thinks she doesn't have it in her to recover from something like that, espeically since there is no family she sees other than me. Her relatives are in Europe.
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You are just a kid, and worrying way too much about "possibilities" and don't have any actual problems (like you have no job, or serious health issues). Your Mom has a good job, owns a home, has managed to save $40K quickly. She's on a serious roll, despite having (what you believe) are "panic attacks." Unless she was referred to a cardiologist by the ER, she sounds like a typical multi-tasking middle aged career woman, doing very well for herself. She shares her affection with dogs and cats, rather than get involved with assorted men.

I became a widow at 50 (no kids), and dove into my career to keep busy and get past the grief. I challenged myself to work hard, make money and save it. I paid off my house and retired at age 65. Sure, I had panic attacks, a tad of anxiety and lots of sadness during that process. I never met anyone I liked enough to date. I got a great dog myself, I had for 7 years. She sounds perfectly normal to me.

The loss of a spouse sucks. Your life is ripped in half. She is managing to work, be successful and even let her son move back in. Your job now is not to fret or obsess over her future, but to make her busy life NOW much easier! That means helping around her house, with no drama.

In other words....be a great, thoughtful and upbeat son, that doesn't stress her out! Offer to take her out sometime for a casual dinner, or just to do something fun. Tell her she looks fabulous, clean the gutters, take her car to the car wash and treat her...make her smile! Stop giving her the "worried vibe." You are lucky to have a great Mom, who is obviously successful and independent, so let her know that by your actions. Don't be a downer, or act worried about HER future. Instead, ask her advice about YOUR future! If you see she needs help, offer it. Be positive, helpful and hopeful around her. It's simple. Give her the respect she has earned and be thankful she's surviving quite nicely.

While living under her roof, make her life as easy as possible. Don't even mention Assisted Living to her at her age! Focus on your own life, not hers. You got this!
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
Most answers here have been encouraging me to live my own life (which is also what you're doing in a slightly different way), so I appreciate you sharing your own view.

I don't believe my mom is as independent as you suggest. Yes, she has been successful with work and juggles many other tasks, a doer. Her level of attachment to me is pretty strong though, and she has personal fears about not being taken care of in the future. While I've told her that she'll be taken care of, I've been honest in saying that I wouldn't do the same thing that she's doing for her MIL, my grandmother. It feels like a black hole that can never be filled.

With this in mind, it's hard to be upbeat like you suggest. I don't think it's possible to be who she wants me to be.

Additionally, by making her busy life easier, wouldn't that allow her to take on more tasks, stressing herself out even more? I don't mean this in a combative way, but that sounds like enabling the sort of behavior that's currently creating problems.
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Onlyson, your mom is young enough to work, and she earns $96,000 a year. I really don't consider her finances "rough," but maybe I don't understand what you meant by that.

I know women who live on much less than that! One has a pension from her husband ($560 per month) and social security retirement ($970 per month). She occasionally works pet sitting. She owns her home in an area with a moderate cost of living, and her house is paid for. She has an IRA. She's a widow and lives modestly, has a nice vacation with a group tour every two years. She's 77. I'm only mentioning this because your mom is comparatively much better off.

You're way too enmeshed with your mom. I admire your wish to be a good son, and you are. But part of growing up is growing away, establishing your own life, and realizing that mom is not your responsibility. Nor are you hers.

Good luck and best wishes for a happy life.
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
It's good to put things into perspective like you're saying. 96k is more than enough to build a retirement, especially if your lifestyle is pulled back a bit.

My mom would be worried about letting go of the house, the backyard garden, and all the luxeries that come with it. While I might think to myself, "Okay, seriously? Do you really need all of this?" There's a part of herself that suffers a bit from the loss.

Most people would call that growing up and saying "sh*t happens," but it doesn't get rid of the pain.

One thing I did take away from your post which I hadn't really thought about, is that if she were to downgrade her lifestyle, she would be able to adapt to whatever place she ends up at. If people can lose limbs and live happy fulfilling lives, I'm sure my mom can move to a smaller house and make adjustments where needed. I see that a lot of this is not wanting to see her go through the pain.
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Hi! Your most recent post sounds that you are thinking seriously about the future. Here’s something to think about the present.

You are 24, just out of relationship, and you have time and energy to go along with M’s ‘wants’ – even to see them as ‘needs’. If you change your support now, M has the time and energy to pick up dealing with them herself. If pushed, she will cope.

If you don’t change now, but find it needs to change in the future, you will be ‘dropping’ M and her demands at a time when she may no longer have the ability to cope so well. Her expectations of you will have grown, and her skills to cope will wither on the vine. She will probably be very angry with you. This is NOT doing her (or your relationship with her) a favor. Sort it now!
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OnlySon24 Dec 18, 2023
Ah definitely. This is another good point. As she gets older, she probably won't have the same ability to cope as she does now. It's safer to expect it to get worse.

I appreciate you bringing this up. This seems to apply to all relationships, where leaving matters unattended prevents the other person from working on whatever it is they need to adapt to. For my mom, that would be creating more independence for herself and envisioning a life of her own while I have my own life.

I'm glad I reached out about it. Thanks again for your guidance.
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In your life, YOU come first.

Your mother might be having more stress due to caregiving for your grandfather. That's a lot. Does she work? Do not expect your uncle to do anything in the caregiving realm. Some people are not cut out for it. If a person is not interested, they should not be pushed or otherwise guilted into it. Also meaning that your mother does not HAVE to provide care either. If her health is suffering, then she should be making a plan to back out as well. She should look at what she is providing for care and how to get it off of her plate.

Your mom is only 55 so you should not really be figuring out how to take care of her but how you are going to take care of YOU. Do you work and have a career? That's where your focus should be. And going out with your friends and enjoying life.

If your mom is driving you thinking about how you are going to care for her, I would seriously shift that conversation into how is she going to take care of HERSELF. Can she currently take care of her $400K house or are you propping her up to do so? Are you living with her? She could sell her house and move into a small apartment in a retirement community. Then Assisted Living when she can no longer live independently.

You do NOT want to be THE answer to how you are going to take care of her. Be her son, not her caregiver.

Also, make sure your mom has her paperwork in order. She should have things like a will, living will, power of attorney (medical and financial), etc in order. Without these documents, when something happens it will be nightmare for you. You should also be beneficiary on any accounts she has.

So, shift your focus and you can ensure that you BOTH have a nice future to look forward to.
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
I appreciate the advice, especially from later in your post. I'll make sure that those documents are prepared.

To answser your questions neatly:

Q: Does she work?
A: Yes, her current base salary is around 96k with a potential 20% bonus (we doubt that's happening this year but who knows).

Q: Do you work and have a career?
A: Yes, I was able to make it through school and become a software developer.

Q: Can she currently take care of her $400K house or are you propping her up to do so?
A: She is handling the house herself, but I never have seen her specific finances. She is making payments consistently but I wonder if it's at the cost of her retirement.

Q: Are you living with her?
A: Yes, though I'm hoping it wasn't a mistake. I just moved back in a week ago to hopefully save some money for a move to the city. I also wrapped up a master's degree, so the timing was right to move. It will give me time to recieve an expected promotion and plan my finances without dealing with school and work at the same time (there's a lot less on my plate)

So far though, it's been tough dealing with her anxiety. I'm going to bring it up at some point, but it seems like she is about to freak out over something small at any point and that's draining to me. Maybe it's necessary that I just move right back out and potentially get a mediocre lease for an apartment to improve my mental health. Not sure yet.
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Your mother is 55 years old which is comparatively young these days. She can easily address her anxiety issues by speaking to her doctor about going on an antidepressant/anti anxiety medication like Paxil. Which would cut down on unnecessary trips to the ER for chest pains and sweats, which sound like panic attacks to me. Why are YOU financing her healthcare??? If she has a 401k she should also have health insurance and if not, why not? Financing an anxiety ridden woman's health needs can bankrupt you, my friend.

At this point in her life, mom needs to take responsibility for her own life and not lay it at your feet, regardless of cultural expectations. She will have $440k+ by the time she retires, which is enough to liquidate and move into senior housing, then Assisted Living as needed. Make it perfectly clear to her that you will not assume the role of hands on caregiver for her in the future, as I did with my parents. That you will have a job and a family to attend to and no time or medical background to facilitate in home care of a senior. Prepare her NOW for what lies ahead down the road. Urge her to get meds and counseling for her issues or YOU will become (or continue to be) the parent and she will be the child. Many parents groom their children to take on JUST that role. It's not a lack of love that prevents us from accepting that role, but recognition of the importance of having separate lives as individuals w/o a parent usurping our freedom.

Wishing you the best of luck and courage realizing that YOUR life comes first.
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BurntCaregiver Dec 2023
@lealonnie

She's currently taking care of her MIL which means there's a husband.

Let him pay for her insurance and take responsibility for her. She's taking responsibility for his mother.
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Most people are still fully employed at her age and in fact many work well into their 70's, the fact that your mom has chosen to retire early in order to uphold a traditional caregiving role was not your decision and is not yours to fix. Barring an unexpected illness there is no reason she should need your help or intervention for at least another couple of decades, and at that point any plans you make today will be outdated. Do might educate yourself on things like healthcare options, pensions and access to long term care, assisted living or independent living so you are somewhat ready if the need ever arises, beyond that assume she is a competent adult and get on with your life.
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
I appreciate your reply. She still is working and is well liked at work (to my knowledge). There are opportunities to build up her retirement, though I'm not sure she'll be able to get where she wants by 70. A part of my concern is her being forced into retirement through some accident. I'm hoping she'll be able to build something for herself before 70, though she talks about working into her 80's.
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"She struggles to handle her personal life, dealing with financial and anxiety issues."

This.

Retirement age is 67 where I live (to access either Govt pension or personal retirement funds). At 55 your Mother may be considered somewhat old is some cultures, but I'd consider 'middle aged'. If no major health concerns, middle aged persons can be working.

Something is holding her back from her most productive life. This is her issue to explore, seek advice & find solutions for. Using a child/grown young adult for all your support needs is 'dependant' behaviour in my book.

You are her son. Not her therapist.
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OnlySon24 Dec 2023
True, there's only so much I can do.

I'm currently seeking family therapy. After talking with her earlier, it seems like a good stepping stone if we want our relationship to improve going forward.
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